Wise Women Group

Toward the end of her career, Beth launched a "Wise Women Group," which became a safe and valued space for the sharing of experiences and life challenges among a diverse and welcoming group of older women.

In 2022, Beth published "Women Sharing Wisdom:  A Facilitator's Guide to Starting a Wise Women Group", <https://www.amazon.com/Women-Sharing-Wisdom-Facilitators-Starting-ebook/dp/B0B5W4G3TG>, her last major publication. It is a collection of 158 single page thought provoking discussion topics that pertain to women and the challenges they face as they age.  She saw this not as group therapy, but as a place for women to listen to one another, to learn and to grow.  Beth felt this was one of her greatest legacies, something she hoped would endure and be promoted in perpetuity; her intention for the book was to encourage other women to start their own groups.  In 2023 she presented this book and the Wise Women concept at the APA (American Psychological Association in DC) where it was enthusiastically received.

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If you are interested in starting a group, there is great guidance in Beth’s book.

You may consider in-person meetings where you can make face-to-face contact with local people, however, Zoom is more convenient for most.

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Dr. Beth Firestein, right, chats May 30 with three members of the Wise Women support group during lunch at Adelita's in Loveland. From left the ladies are Nancy Lichina, Skye Summerain and Nancy McDonald. ( Liyana Haniff )

If you are interested in joining an existing Wise Women group, contact:

  • Diane Knight at dkessel2@comcast.net;
    meetings on the second and fourth Tuesday of each month from 11:15 - 12:30
     by Zoom (There may be occasional meetings in person).
  • Or Ginny Riley at  griley60@gmail.com; meetings every other Thursday from 9:30 – 11:00 by Zoom.

The Wise Women Group is a free, community-based support group for women 50 − 100+ who are looking for a place to connect with other women and have stimulating discussions about a variety of topics that pertain to our lives. Most of the women in the group are in their 60s, 70s, and 80s.

This is a group of vital, interesting women dealing with challenges and changes associated with getting older. The tone of the group is positive and uplifting, and we manage to laugh together in spite of the challenges we all face.

The Wise Women Group Gathers to Celebrate Beth's Life

Wise Women Group - In The News

Wise Women work together as they navigate life changes

Psychologist Beth Firestein created support group to give women help to deal with aging

By Joyce Davis For the Loveland Reporter-Herald
Posted: 06/08/2013 11:42:39 AM MDT

Growing older is a challenge at any age. For women in their 50s, 60s, 70s and up, the challenges may be accompanied with feelings of sadness, confusion and even dread. In many cases, each birthday may bring unexpected, life-altering changes -- empty nest, divorce, death of a mate, loss of a job or feelings of inadequacy and depression.

In the United States, the average life expectancy of women exceeds 80 years. With this in mind, women are seeking help in defining their lives and creating positive images as they move forward.

Beth Firestein, a Loveland licensed psychologist, created the Wise Women Support Group as a safe haven for women struggling with a variety of aging issues. The group, for women 50-100, is on summer hiatus, but will begin again in September. The strong bonds formed by the women create a path for wholeness and confidence in the future.

"I'm always struck by the range of responses from women going through major transitions in life," she says. "There are all levels of acceptance, adaptation and attitudes. Even the healthiest of women are affected by a sudden shift that triggers an existential crisis." Women in the group seek a more pro-active response to aging, says Firestein, who has 27 years experience. "Many concerns throughout their lives become more pronounced as they get older and even though they've always been self-reliant, at some point they realize they can't deal with these issues by themselves."

With aging, women may find their lives altered in a variety of ways. "I notice the women in this group -- a self-selected group -- are eager to grow and heal. Regardless of their differences, they're all highly motivated to that end," she says. Peggy Edwards, of Loveland, says women may seek permission to change their lives. "When
you're with these other women, you see what they're doing with their lives and it makes you questions your own. You think 'Wow!' Can I accomplish these things, work through them? Am I good enough to do it?'"

Dr. Beth Firestein leads a Wise Women support group for women ages 55 and above in Loveland. The support group is free and the women meet every other week at a restaurant to talk about the challenges they face. (Liyana Haniff)

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"It's time to look at age on its own terms, and put names on its values and strengths, breaking through the definition of age solely as deterioration or decline from youth. The problem is how to break through the cocoon of our illusory youth and risk a new stage in life, where there are no prescribed roles, no models nor rigid rules or visible rewards -- how to step out into a true existential unknown for these years of life now open to us and to find our own terms for living them." -- Betty Friedan, author and feminist, in "The Fountain of Age"

Married at 18, Edwards has been widowed twice -- the first time at age 28 with a 3-year-old son, then again at age 55. She's also a survivor of domestic violence.

"I wanted to be with other women who may or may not have been in the same situation to learn from them," she says. "There's such a stigma with domestic violence. It's hard to get out of your little world, to make yourself vulnerable. We're searching for a way to find ourselves, but we can't do it on our own. You can heal, you can become whole, but you need that nurturing support from other women."

Pat Saunders-White is transitioning through several life changes, including a divorce.  "Sometimes older women are so enmeshed in traditional patterns they can't break out," she says. "It's time to reinvent yourself, strip away those old roles."

She says it's important to foster the spirit of independence. "Hopefully, there comes a time when you grow to a point where you can do anything you want, whenever you want." Even so, some barriers remain. "As we're growing, we still carry around that little kid with all the insecurities inside of us," Saunders-White says. "If you receive a compliment, that kid is thinking you don't deserve it. We're learning to leave that voice behind, live in the present and believe in who we are now."

Firestein focuses on helping each woman build a foundation by identifying their character strengths.

"There's a lot of laughter in the group and the tone is one of resilience," she says. "Our emphasis is on moving forward with practical support to create healthy women psychologically, physically and emotionally. It's no pity party."

Emboldened, both Saunders-White and Edwards have used travel to make a statement. Last year, Edwards popped her dog in the car for a road trip to Idaho -- a time of self-enlightenment.

"I had a tendency to isolate myself," she says. "I always thought I was an introvert, but it turns out that I'm actually an extrovert. I really loved meeting people on that trip."

Saunders-White recently made a solo trip to Santa Fe. "All these years I had qualms and what-ifs about doing that," she says. "It was great to just go ahead and do it."

It's about empowerment, says Firestein. "I would say that 100 percent of the women feel the need to be valued throughout this transition. They create this tight-knit group in a unifying motivation to re-engage in an exciting, new life."

Saunders-White agrees. "We're women who are moving along together -- it's that universal camaraderie women have that keeps us going."

Joyce Davis is a freelance writer who lives in Longmont. She can be reached at jaymdavisvitality@yahoo.com.

Examples of 'Food For Thought' Discussions from the Wise Women Group

More Food For Though Discussion Topics can be found in Beth's Book 'Women Sharing Wisdom: A Facilitator's Guide to Starting a Wise Women Group'

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Relationships across Generations

March 6, 2022

FOOD FOR THOUGHT An almost universal concern for the women that come to see me is the challenge involved in relating across generational boundaries within the family.  These challenges include relating to young children, adult children, grandchildren, older or elderly parents, and members of the extended family in many different life stages.  The perspective of…

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Families

February 20, 2022

FOOD FOR THOUGHT What is a family? This may sound like a ridiculous question to most people. After all, families are families. The term is self-explanatory . . . or is it? A family is a group of people related by blood and marriage. But the term is multiple-layered with meaning, significance, and expectation. Our…

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Spending Quality Time with Ourselves

February 6, 2022

FOOD FOR THOUGHT We think a great deal about our relationships. We consider and analyze our relationships with family, friends, coworkers, even our casual acquaintances, but we seem to overlook our most important relationship—our relationship with ourselves. We are constantly in a relationship with ourselves whether we realize it or not. But when you don’t…

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What are your New Year’s Intentions?

January 16, 2022

FOOD FOR THOUGHT Many people create New Year’s resolutions, and these can pertain to many different life areas.  Most common are resolutions having to do with fitness, losing weight, completing unfinished projects, or just being a better human being.  We may write down our resolutions, and even manage to achieve some of them. But over…

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Trust

January 2, 2022

Food for Thought Trust is a powerful word and a powerful concept. It underlies every facet of our lives from how we feel about the world to how we feel about our relationships, and ourselves. What does it mean to trust? The dictionary defines trust as “firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength…

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What is Home?

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Food for Thought Home is a word rich with depth, meaning, and nuance. At its most basic level, we tend to think of “home” as the house in which we grew up, usually having the connotation of permanence or longevity. We also think of the primary place we establish to live in adulthood as home.…

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Simplifying our Lives

November 14, 2021

FOOD FOR THOUGHT Life is not simple but it need not be as complicated as we usually make it.  Often, life is simultaneously both simple and complex. For example, the needs of the newborn infant are simple—to be held, loved, changed, fed, and to sleep and to be given a safe place to do all…

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Being Human and Redefining Purpose

November 1, 2021

Food for Thought Most women view purpose as synonymous with giving, taking care of others, teaching, or mentoring.  If, as women, we are not giving to others, we have no sense of purpose.  This reflects a very narrow definition of purpose, but one that has been inculcated in us since early childhood.  Most of us…

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Redefining Purpose as we Age

October 19, 2021

FOOD FOR THOUGHT One of the most common topics that arise in our group discussions and in my one-on-one counseling with older women is the question of life purpose. Some women have experienced a life-long struggle to define their sense of purpose in life, but many others have had a sense of purpose that has…

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